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		<title>Comment on The difference between being Christian, and being Christlike by darnedfrenchman</title>
		<link>http://students.washington.edu/secular/2009/04/30/the-difference-between-being-christian-and-being-christlike/comment-page-1/#comment-644</link>
		<dc:creator>darnedfrenchman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Nov 2009 20:32:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s a different between politically justifiable and morally justifiable, any person who thinks torture or like acts are morally justifiable aren&#039;t christian, but this has no bearing on what needs to be done in the political climate, and being politically in favour of the death penalty does not mean you would be willing to be the executioner.  The problem with atheists is they&#039;re often liberal, and they past few months have proven liberals aren&#039;t good at getting things done.  Religious people are conservative and good at getting things done.  Atheist may want to close Gitmo and save the world but in doing so they will fail because its not politically prudent to do so.  As firm believers in separation of church and state atheist should realize that christians have the ability to sort their opinions accordingly.  So it seems because atheist have only the secular mindset to them moral and just become inextricable from the each other when in fact they are polar opposites.  I&#039;m for the death penalty, for the war, against healthcare, but would never sentence a man to death, kill a man, nor turn the sick away.  Obviously there are religious &quot;simple folk&quot; out there who adhere to conservatism without thinking morally at all, which makes them bad people, but as long as one realizes they would never do the things they support politically they can remain moral.  And of course atheists aren&#039;t amoral they just subscribe to their own individualized morality which may or may not be against torture; an atheist may follow religious morals better then a theist, but when someone says atheists are amoral they might mean they believe they are going to hell for not believing in a god.  I&#039;d like to say this blog was a good attempt but to the skilled reader it just shows an ignorant liberal atheist, three things that I am not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a different between politically justifiable and morally justifiable, any person who thinks torture or like acts are morally justifiable aren&#8217;t christian, but this has no bearing on what needs to be done in the political climate, and being politically in favour of the death penalty does not mean you would be willing to be the executioner.  The problem with atheists is they&#8217;re often liberal, and they past few months have proven liberals aren&#8217;t good at getting things done.  Religious people are conservative and good at getting things done.  Atheist may want to close Gitmo and save the world but in doing so they will fail because its not politically prudent to do so.  As firm believers in separation of church and state atheist should realize that christians have the ability to sort their opinions accordingly.  So it seems because atheist have only the secular mindset to them moral and just become inextricable from the each other when in fact they are polar opposites.  I&#8217;m for the death penalty, for the war, against healthcare, but would never sentence a man to death, kill a man, nor turn the sick away.  Obviously there are religious &#8220;simple folk&#8221; out there who adhere to conservatism without thinking morally at all, which makes them bad people, but as long as one realizes they would never do the things they support politically they can remain moral.  And of course atheists aren&#8217;t amoral they just subscribe to their own individualized morality which may or may not be against torture; an atheist may follow religious morals better then a theist, but when someone says atheists are amoral they might mean they believe they are going to hell for not believing in a god.  I&#8217;d like to say this blog was a good attempt but to the skilled reader it just shows an ignorant liberal atheist, three things that I am not.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Buddhism and Atheism by Thick Black Theory</title>
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		<dc:creator>Thick Black Theory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Oct 2009 00:48:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Thick Black Theory...&lt;/strong&gt;

An interesting post over at . . ....</description>
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<p>An interesting post over at . . &#8230;.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Thank you! by jegger79</title>
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		<dc:creator>jegger79</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Oct 2009 03:21:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just wanted to say thanks for your work in arranging for Mr. Dawkins to come and speak at the UW. It was a pleasure to see him in person. Though I don&#039;t agree with his &quot;militant atheist&quot; stand, he does a wonderful job of making evolution and science accessible to the intelligent masses.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just wanted to say thanks for your work in arranging for Mr. Dawkins to come and speak at the UW. It was a pleasure to see him in person. Though I don&#8217;t agree with his &#8220;militant atheist&#8221; stand, he does a wonderful job of making evolution and science accessible to the intelligent masses.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Thank you! by dniete97</title>
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		<dc:creator>dniete97</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Oct 2009 00:19:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>you really do a disservice to the cause of secularism and FREE-thinking when you delete posts (by atheists!) that are critical of the ssu.  you&#039;d think you&#039;d see the irony in it.  what kind of freethinking are you encouraging here, ssu?

&quot;the freedom of speech is meaningless unless it means the freedom of the person who thinks differently.&quot;  
-rosa luxemburg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>you really do a disservice to the cause of secularism and FREE-thinking when you delete posts (by atheists!) that are critical of the ssu.  you&#8217;d think you&#8217;d see the irony in it.  what kind of freethinking are you encouraging here, ssu?</p>
<p>&#8220;the freedom of speech is meaningless unless it means the freedom of the person who thinks differently.&#8221;<br />
-rosa luxemburg</p>
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		<title>Comment on Richard Dawkins Comes to Seattle! by Johnny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johnny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 14:54:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1. Prof. Dawkins requested a student be on stage with him at all times for sake of security.

2. Oops.

3. Prof. Dawkins requested that all applause be held to the end.

4. Prof. Dawkins was quite happy with the selection of questions, with the exception of the theme song question. He gets tired of answering the same questions over and over. In fact, he took down details of the question/answering system so that he could use it for future events.

All in all, Prof. Dawkins was very satisfied with how the event was run. I apologize if you were not, but I hope you enjoyed the rest of the event anyway.

Oh, and all the &quot;self-promoting&quot; was actually for the groups that helped pay for the event, and organized the publicity around it. You got to attend the event for free due to their advertising, efforts, and money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. Prof. Dawkins requested a student be on stage with him at all times for sake of security.</p>
<p>2. Oops.</p>
<p>3. Prof. Dawkins requested that all applause be held to the end.</p>
<p>4. Prof. Dawkins was quite happy with the selection of questions, with the exception of the theme song question. He gets tired of answering the same questions over and over. In fact, he took down details of the question/answering system so that he could use it for future events.</p>
<p>All in all, Prof. Dawkins was very satisfied with how the event was run. I apologize if you were not, but I hope you enjoyed the rest of the event anyway.</p>
<p>Oh, and all the &#8220;self-promoting&#8221; was actually for the groups that helped pay for the event, and organized the publicity around it. You got to attend the event for free due to their advertising, efforts, and money.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Richard Dawkins Comes to Seattle! by dniete97</title>
		<link>http://students.washington.edu/secular/2009/09/15/richard-dawkins-comes-to-seattle/comment-page-1/#comment-639</link>
		<dc:creator>dniete97</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 22:01:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dawkins was his normal lucid self.  Great talk.

It turns out, however, that the question-answer format touted to be &quot;ingenious&quot; wasn&#039;t quite so ingenious after all.  

The consensus from a lot of people I talked to outside was that this event would&#039;ve been a lot better if the douchebag (we&#039;ll call him Johnny) who introduced Dawkins had spent less time self-promoting and more time talking about the person that 4500 people had come to see.  

A few highlights from the comedy of errors:

   1.  Johnny stays on the stage just a few feet away from Dawkins during the entire talk, busily sorting questions through his own little idiot filter (which I&#039;ll come back to later).  It was distracting and poorly thought out.  Introduce the man, and then get off the stage.  We didn&#039;t come here to see you.

   2.  Dawkins has repeatedly pointed out that the title of Darwin&#039;s book is emphatically not &quot;The Origin　of the Species.&quot;  Its proper abbreviated title should be &quot;On the Origin of Species.&quot;  It&#039;s unsurprising when creationists and other laypersons do it (referring subconsciously to &quot;the&quot; species, i.e., humans).  It&#039;s devastating when the person introducing Richard Dawkins does it.  

   3.  The arrogance of the self-aggrandizing douche really shone through when, after a more than usually brilliant answer to a question, the audience clapped appreciatively.  Unfortunately, Johnny had already started responding and moving on to the next question.  Sensing that he hadn&#039;t been heard by all, he petulantly &quot;reminded&quot; the audience to hold all applause to the end of the questions.  Umm..  In two words:  Hell.  No.  That&#039;s not how these things work.  This couldn&#039;t have been his first event like this, could it have?  He must know that when some of us who have waited two years to see Prof. Dawkins finally hear his expounded brilliance, it really is okay to clap.  Really.  Good god.  It&#039;s almost as if anything other than a two-way conversation between Johnny and Prof. Dawkins would&#039;ve been unacceptable.

   4.  Whose bright idea was it to have a single person filter out all the questions that made it to Professor Dawkins???  &quot;What is your theme song?&quot;  Why, Johnny, why..  when you were so concerned about time that you silenced our applause, did you waste OUR time choosing to ask him the question &quot;What is your theme song?&quot;  The question about whether or not he likes Christmas and one other that I can&#039;t remember were okaaaaay, but they really did belong in his God Delusion book tour.  He stated clearly in the beginning that his purpose in writing the book and coming out to speak to all of us was not to critique theism.  It was to explain the evidence for evolution.  If, in his expert judgment, Johnny deemed such questions more crowd-friendly, then he misjudged the sophistication of his audience.  We know which book tour we came out to see.

Dawkins really did give a superb talk, but the event was marred by the poor planning and execution of Johnny and the rest of the SSU.  It was unfortunate.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dawkins was his normal lucid self.  Great talk.</p>
<p>It turns out, however, that the question-answer format touted to be &#8220;ingenious&#8221; wasn&#8217;t quite so ingenious after all.  </p>
<p>The consensus from a lot of people I talked to outside was that this event would&#8217;ve been a lot better if the douchebag (we&#8217;ll call him Johnny) who introduced Dawkins had spent less time self-promoting and more time talking about the person that 4500 people had come to see.  </p>
<p>A few highlights from the comedy of errors:</p>
<p>   1.  Johnny stays on the stage just a few feet away from Dawkins during the entire talk, busily sorting questions through his own little idiot filter (which I&#8217;ll come back to later).  It was distracting and poorly thought out.  Introduce the man, and then get off the stage.  We didn&#8217;t come here to see you.</p>
<p>   2.  Dawkins has repeatedly pointed out that the title of Darwin&#8217;s book is emphatically not &#8220;The Origin　of the Species.&#8221;  Its proper abbreviated title should be &#8220;On the Origin of Species.&#8221;  It&#8217;s unsurprising when creationists and other laypersons do it (referring subconsciously to &#8220;the&#8221; species, i.e., humans).  It&#8217;s devastating when the person introducing Richard Dawkins does it.  </p>
<p>   3.  The arrogance of the self-aggrandizing douche really shone through when, after a more than usually brilliant answer to a question, the audience clapped appreciatively.  Unfortunately, Johnny had already started responding and moving on to the next question.  Sensing that he hadn&#8217;t been heard by all, he petulantly &#8220;reminded&#8221; the audience to hold all applause to the end of the questions.  Umm..  In two words:  Hell.  No.  That&#8217;s not how these things work.  This couldn&#8217;t have been his first event like this, could it have?  He must know that when some of us who have waited two years to see Prof. Dawkins finally hear his expounded brilliance, it really is okay to clap.  Really.  Good god.  It&#8217;s almost as if anything other than a two-way conversation between Johnny and Prof. Dawkins would&#8217;ve been unacceptable.</p>
<p>   4.  Whose bright idea was it to have a single person filter out all the questions that made it to Professor Dawkins???  &#8220;What is your theme song?&#8221;  Why, Johnny, why..  when you were so concerned about time that you silenced our applause, did you waste OUR time choosing to ask him the question &#8220;What is your theme song?&#8221;  The question about whether or not he likes Christmas and one other that I can&#8217;t remember were okaaaaay, but they really did belong in his God Delusion book tour.  He stated clearly in the beginning that his purpose in writing the book and coming out to speak to all of us was not to critique theism.  It was to explain the evidence for evolution.  If, in his expert judgment, Johnny deemed such questions more crowd-friendly, then he misjudged the sophistication of his audience.  We know which book tour we came out to see.</p>
<p>Dawkins really did give a superb talk, but the event was marred by the poor planning and execution of Johnny and the rest of the SSU.  It was unfortunate.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Thank you! by kadean</title>
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		<dc:creator>kadean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2009 19:52:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m curious if anyone has photos of the event they&#039;d be willing to share. I was fortunate to sit up close, but my phone took really bad pictures.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m curious if anyone has photos of the event they&#8217;d be willing to share. I was fortunate to sit up close, but my phone took really bad pictures.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Richard Dawkins Comes to Seattle! by RSS agregator &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Richard Dawkins in Seattle Oct 8</title>
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		<dc:creator>RSS agregator &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Richard Dawkins in Seattle Oct 8</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Oct 2009 12:01:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>Comment on The difference between being Christian, and being Christlike by sports blogs</title>
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		<dc:creator>sports blogs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2009 05:19:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;sports blogs...&lt;/strong&gt;

Your topic The Accidental Scientist &quot; Blog Archive &quot; Cocktails and Buffy: On ... was interesting when I found it on Tuesday searching for sports blogs...</description>
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<p>Your topic The Accidental Scientist &#8221; Blog Archive &#8221; Cocktails and Buffy: On &#8230; was interesting when I found it on Tuesday searching for sports blogs&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Catholic&#8217;s reasons for Pro-life stance by Prescription Drugs -  Butalbital-apap</title>
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		<dc:creator>Prescription Drugs -  Butalbital-apap</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 07:50:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;Prescription Drugs -  Butalbital-apap...&lt;/strong&gt;

An interesting post by a bloger made me ......</description>
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<p>An interesting post by a bloger made me &#8230;&#8230;</p>
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