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I want to start a discussion about who gets access to the bulletin board.

One thing to keep in mind is that we need to (a) stick as close to the mailing list characteristics as possible, and (b) make sure we don't wind up with a clone of Cascadeclimbers.com.

My suggestion is that we limit both reading and generating posts to UWCC members.

Since anybody can become a member, and it doesn't cost anything, this isn't really a limitation.

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The current (and past) model is that anybody can be a member. The only reason you need is wanting to be in the mountains... or play with us in the city for that matter.


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Alright, whatever. I just want a t-shirt :D

But we do make some effort to verify all the members that come in, yes? It doesn't make sense if just any bored Boulder teenager wants to be a UWCC member because he or she found this site, since there will be no real-world interaction (i.e., climbing) with such a person. Perhaps there are people interested in coming to UW, or who are planning on making a trip to the PNW and want to see what the climbing scene's like, find a partner, etc. We don't need to let those people be members and join the list -- let them find what they're looking for on cc.com. Non-members can always browse the BBS.

I say we need to have some sort of solid affiliation with the UW or at least Seattle, or else we'll lose cohesiveness. If you've climbed with Jon Jantz, you automatically get in, of course :wink: I think being actually referred by a UW student/faculty/staff member (as in, the sponsor must inform the list/BBS admin) is enough.


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Obviously there's some tension here between what I think Stebbi and certainly Jon feel is a need to recruit members to have a vibrant, large community of climbers, and the need (expressed here by Dan) to have a close-knit community of climbers.

I agree that membership should be limited so that the UWCC feels like it's really associated with the UW, and doesn't run rampant as a catch-all climbers club for anyone who finds our website. But I want to be a member, too! We should have some openness and allow referrals for those people who will pay dues but aren't UW students. If you're not UW alumni (or UWCC alumni) and are living in Nebraska, though, it's hard to come up with a good reason to be granted a membership.

Finally, I see no reason not to allow read-only access to the board for non-members. This board is a great way for potential members to see what we do, and is a much more palpable expression of our community than the nice mountain photos we put up on the website.


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Well, the reason I put this opinion forward is precisely because Jon and I talked a great deal about this last year, and were generally in agreement that the email list was not the UWCC any more. If you recall (or maybe you don't), the only times the UWCC membership was addressed by email, we had to send out a huge group email to the 100 or so formal members, personally! We couldn't even use the email list! It was kind of ridiculous, and showed me to what degree the club had become dispossessed of the email list, and that there was something missing. Only officers had access to the entire membership list, and so there was no way Joe or Jenny member could have addressed the club without getting all the hangers-on the email list. And if I sound negative about the email list, it's just because its usefulness to the club was sorely compromised by having all the other people on there, whom no one knew and were as often as not critical without being helpful. But the email list was clearly a nice resource for Seattle-area climbers, which got somewhat obsolete when cascadeclimbers got popular in the past year or so.

And the $10 membership is precisely for folks that aren't UW students but want to join. They don't get gear priviledges, so there's no hassles with IMA membership and so on, but they do get the slide shows, email and bulletin board priviledges, and general good karma. Frankly, for you (and Rex and D. Yount and Jon and others) who obviously contribute plenty to the club without demanding much in return, I don't care a whit about getting your $10! It's basically to differentiate those who wish to contribute something to the club (and presumably get something out of it) vs the lurkers who don't really have any interest in ever participating with UW stuff, but want to voice their opinion when it's convenient to them, and get some kick out of hearing what other folks are up to.


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